{"id":4467,"date":"2024-12-10T18:44:13","date_gmt":"2024-12-10T09:44:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.cbon.co.jp\/journal\/?p=4467"},"modified":"2026-04-01T14:01:07","modified_gmt":"2026-04-01T05:01:07","slug":"interview_21","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cbon.co.jp\/journal\/interview_21\/","title":{"rendered":"\u904e\u53bb\u306e\u808c\u30c8\u30e9\u30d6\u30eb\u3092\u4e57\u308a\u8d8a\u3048\u3066\u7d20\u808c\u306b\u81ea\u4fe1\u3002<br>\u5185\u5074\u304b\u3089\u306e\u8f1d\u304d\u3092\u6b4c\u58f0\u306b\u4e57\u305b\u3066"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"toc_container\" class=\"no_bullets\"><p class=\"toc_title\">\u76ee\u6b21<\/p><ul class=\"toc_list\"><li><a href=\"#7\"><span class=\"toc_number toc_depth_1\">1<\/span> \u7d0d\u5f97\u3067\u304d\u308b\u30b1\u30a2\u3092\u6c42\u30817\u5e74\u3001\u30b7\u30fc\u30dc\u30f3\u3068\u51fa\u4f1a\u3046<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"#i\"><span class=\"toc_number toc_depth_1\">2<\/span> 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