{"id":4533,"date":"2025-01-08T12:04:05","date_gmt":"2025-01-08T03:04:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.cbon.co.jp\/journal\/?p=4533"},"modified":"2026-04-01T12:44:52","modified_gmt":"2026-04-01T03:44:52","slug":"interview_22","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cbon.co.jp\/journal\/interview_22\/","title":{"rendered":"\u30c7\u30b8\u30bf\u30eb\u6642\u4ee3\u306b\u898b\u3064\u3051\u305f\u65b0\u3057\u3044\u30e9\u30a4\u30d5\u30b9\u30bf\u30a4\u30eb\u3002<br>\u81ea\u5206\u3092\u611b\u304a\u3057\u3080\u30b7\u30fc\u30dc\u30f3\u3067\u306e\u6642\u9593\u3002"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"toc_container\" class=\"no_bullets\"><p class=\"toc_title\">\u76ee\u6b21<\/p><ul class=\"toc_list\"><li><a href=\"#i\"><span class=\"toc_number toc_depth_1\">1<\/span> \u654f\u611f\u808c\u306b\u5bc4\u308a\u6dfb\u3063\u3066\u304f\u308c\u308b\u5b89\u5fc3\u611f<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"#i-2\"><span class=\"toc_number toc_depth_1\">2<\/span> 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